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Poetics of Human-AI Relations, Creativity, and Mortality in Marc Thomas’s Talking to the Machines

3/31/2025

(“Congressional Conference on the Gold-Plated Age of Infamy” Mixed Media Concept Digital painting by Aberjhani including OpenAI tech-tools)

Poet Marc Thomas’s Talking to The Machines and Other Poems is an evocative collection that delves into the intricate, and often uneasy, relationships between humans and artificial intelligence, and which also examines broader existential concerns regarding creativity, mortality, and thrilling intellectual explorations. The volume is structured into six sections and offers a multifaceted examination of our evolving interactions with both technology and life itself—"Talking to the Machines,” “ Listening to the Survivors, Ghost Stories,” “Listening to the World,” “Playing with Words,” “The Succession of Selves,” and “On Reading Ulysses for the Third Time.”

Central to this essay is the six-stanza tightly-composed poem titled "Charms Against the Robots" (p. 14) which serves as a poignant meditation on preserving human integrity and safeguarding human essence in an era increasingly dominated by AI automation and authoritarian rule. In his introductory remarks, the poet contemplates, "…the creatures we create, and our relation to them, and their characters… and who they and we are and may become, in ourselves and to each other, and what it may be like to be one of them, emerging into consciousness…" This reflection sets the stage for "Charms Against the Robots."

THE REVOLT AGAINST MECHANIZED EXISTENCE

From its opening lines, “Charms Against the Robots” calls for a return to physicality, intuition, and organic experience. The poem begins:

‘Feel the wet black bough
and wear your trousers rolled…’

This evocative imagery recalls sections of T.S. Eliot’s famous early 20th-century poems “The Wasteland” and “The Love Song of J. Alfred Prufrock,” which famously portray anxiety, alienation, and powerlessness in the modern world. By invoking this reference (whether consciously or subconsciously), Thomas suggests that the same existential crisis persists more than a century later, but has now been intensified by digital entrancement.

The contrast between the “wet black bough” and the cold, algorithmic presence of machines underscores the poem’s insistence on sensory experience. This motif is reinforced by other phrases like “stinking with fecundity” and “sucks at your high boots,” emphasizing the grounding force of nature in opposition to artificiality. In a time when many experience life primarily through screens, Thomas’s words serve as a call to embrace embodiment and resist the allure of digitized abstraction.

THE TRAGIC HYPNOSIS OF THE DIGITAL AGE

The poem continues with what could be interpreted as a warning against the intellectual and spiritual numbness that results from total immersion in technology:

          ‘I see the best minds
          electronically entranced
          lost in the pixels
          tripping in the street…’

This passage evokes Allen Ginsberg’s classic 1956 beat poem Howl, which lamented the destruction of “the best minds of my generation” by an oppressive and mechanized society. In Thomas’s vision, AI-driven algorithms have become the new form of control, lulling people into passive consumption and empty stimulation. The phrase “blue screen of death” evokes not just the technical failure of a machine but a metaphorical death of human consciousness, where thought is reduced to programmable outputs. This section of the poem is particularly poignant in an age where social media and AI-driven newsfeeds dictate attention and, in many cases, belief systems.

A DEEPER DIVE

The poem further addresses the limitations of AI, noting that "robots never learn that / automated mimicry / never makes it new." This line challenges the notion of machine creativity, suggesting that despite their ability to process and replicate information, robots lack the genuine innovation that stems from human consciousness. Thomas advocates for an escape from digital constraints, urging individuals to "loosen body and mind" and embrace "no algorithms," thereby reclaiming spontaneity and unpredictability—hallmarks of human creativity.

The penultimate stanza celebrates the playful aspects of human language and experience. By encouraging readers to "dance with the thirteen blackbirds / in the red wheelbarrow" and "slam words together," the poet seems to invoke the works of Wallace Stevens and William Carlos Williams, emphasizing the richness that arises from imaginative engagement. This celebration of linguistic freedom stands in stark contrast to the rigid, programmed nature of machine communication.

Concluding with a call to "rejoice in contradictions / chanting the old joys," the poem embraces the complexities and paradoxes inherent in human life. This acknowledgment of contradiction as a source of vitality and depth serves as a reminder of the irreplaceable value of human experience in the face of advancing AI technologies.

Communities worldwide can find resonance in "Charms Against the Robots," as it addresses universal concerns about the impact of AI on employment, creativity, and social structures. The poem encourages a collective reevaluation of our relationship with technology, urging societies to prioritize human welfare and cultural richness over unbridled technological expansion.

SIGNIFICANCE IN THE CONTEMPORARY CONTEXT

In fact, all of the poetry, arguably, in the first section of Talking to the Machines and Other Poems, gain particular significance in the contemporary context where billionaire technocrats wield considerable influence over democratic processes and economic structures. The implementation of initiatives such as the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) has led to widespread job displacement, disproportionately affecting the less wealthy while augmenting the fortunes of the affluent. These developments underscore the urgency of Thomas's themes when interpreted as reflections of societal fears of dehumanization, and the erosion of individual agency in an automated world.

The poems often serve as both critiques and cautionary tales. By championing sensory experience, creative spontaneity, and the acceptance of contradictions, Thomas advocates for a human-centered approach to progress—one that values the irreplaceable qualities of human consciousness over the sterile efficiencies of machinery.

Moreover, Thomas is not alone when it comes to the observations and concerns expressed in Talking to the Machines. Among contemporary poets who share similar views are: Tracy K. Smith, the U.S.’s 22nd Poet Laureate whose verse often delves into themes of identity, technology, and the human condition to deliver profound insights into our evolving world. The poetry of Ada Limón, 24th Poet Laureate of the U.S. and first Latina so honored, also often examines nuances of human identity and the role of technology in everyday life. Like Smith and Limón, the educator, journalist, and poet Joshua Clover has also won substantial recognition for effectively blending sociopolitical critique with poetic experimentation.

IN CONCLUSION: A LESSON PLAN FOR
TEACHING "CHARMS AGAINST THE ROBOTS"
AND TALKING TO THE MACHINES

During National Poetry Month, as well as throughout school terms, educators can utilize the following three focal points to engage students with Thomas's work:

Exploration of Human vs. Machine Creativity: Facilitate discussions on what distinguishes human creativity from artificial replication. Encourage students to analyze how Thomas portrays these differences in his poetry and to consider the implications for various creative fields. For this exercise, comparing Thomas’s poem "Charms Against the Robots" to a second by him (also from Talking to Machines) titled "The Machines Talk Back,” could prove exceptionally productive.
Literary Allusions and Their Significance: Guide students in identifying and interpreting the literary references within "Charms Against the Robots," such as nods to Eliot, Williams, and Ginsberg. Discuss how these allusions enrich the poem's themes and connect it to broader literary traditions.
Socioeconomic Context and Ethical Considerations: Examine the real-world implications of AI and automation, particularly in relation to economic disparities and ethical dilemmas. Use current events and policies, such as the actions of DOGE, to contextualize the poem's relevance and stimulate critical thinking about the intersection of technology and society.

To learn more about Marc Thomas and his poetry, pay a visit to his channel on YouTube.

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A Deeper Dive into 'The River of Winged Dreams'

6/6/2024

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The poem, "The River of Winged Dreams," is a profound exploration of human suffering, redemption, and transcendence. Featured in author Aberjhani’s fourth poetry collection of the same name, and first published in 2010, the poem has garnered significant acclaim for its evocative imagery and philosophical depth. It touches on themes that resonate with cross-generational audiences diverse readers, composing a powerful collage of human experience that calls to mind the works of past literary giants and contemporary poets alike.

Major Themes

Historical and Spiritual Insights: "The River of Winged Dreams" begins with a stark depiction of humanity's fragmented state, illustrated through surreal and disturbing imagery. The opening lines set the tone:

"None of us know from where the others, or even ourselves, have come. Only that we are nakedly here, shivering on the river’s bleeding banks, looking the slaughtered way we do..."

This vivid portrayal of humanity’s existential confusion and suffering evokes historical periods of intense conflict and turmoil, such as the Holocaust or the transatlantic slave trade. The poet draws from these deep wells of collective trauma, highlighting the lingering scars on the human psyche.

The spiritual dimension is unmistakable, particularly in the recurring motifs of light and transformation. The poem's second section introduces an angelic figure emerging from the river, symbolizing divine intervention and the possibility of redemption:

"Light rises at midnight from the water’s bottom like a giant angel of pulsing stars."

This imagery resonates with spiritual themes of rebirth and salvation found in religious texts, suggesting a universal yearning for divine grace and deliverance from suffering.

Philosophical Contemplations: The poem delves into the philosophical realm by questioning the nature of human existence and the possibility of transcendence. The river, a central symbol in the poem, represents the flow of life and the potential for change. As the poem progresses, the river becomes a site of transformation where "a glowing circle of winged dreams" arises, offering visions of a renewed existence:

"A bridge of silver wings stretches from the dead ashes of an unforgiving nightmare to the jeweled vision of a life started anew."

This passage has been quoted frequently on diverse social media profiles and in various magazines, particularly in observation of a new year. In its original context, it reflects a philosophical meditation on the cyclical nature of suffering and the hope for renewal, akin to the existential reflections found in the works of philosophers like Friedrich Nietzsche and Jean-Paul Sartre.

QUALITIES & VALUES

"The River of Winged Dreams" is notable for its rich and vivid imagery, which draws the reader into a surreal landscape teeming with symbolic significance. poet's use of color—violet, turquoise, and silver—paints a dreamlike tableau that enhances the poem's mystical quality. His diction, at once lyrical and stark, conveys both the beauty and brutality of human experience.

The powerful imagery is in fact one of the most striking features of the poem. The descriptions are both beautiful and horrifying, creating a surreal landscape that challenges the reader’s perception of reality. Symbols such as the river, the light, and the winged dreams are layered with meaning, offering multiple interpretations related to spiritual transcendence, rebirth, and the interconnectedness of life and death.

The language of the poem is lyrical and evocative, blending elements of classical poetry with modernist sensibilities. The tone shifts from despairing to hopeful, and finally to contemplative, guiding the reader through an emotional and spiritual journey. Aberjhani’s command of language and his ability to convey deep emotions through poetic devices make this poem a compelling read.

The poem's structure, divided into three sections, mirrors the journey from despair to hope, culminating in a vision of potential redemption. This tripartite form echoes the narrative arcs found in classical literature, where protagonists often undergo trials before achieving enlightenment or peace.

COMPARABLE WORKS

Two Books: The book titled Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke and Aberjhani’s poetry collection, The River of Winged Dreams, both delve into the ethereal and transcendent nature of angels, yet they do so through distinct literary lenses and literary forms. Rilke’s Duino Elegies captures the existential anguish and divine mystery of the human condition, merging the sublime with the sorrowful in a profoundly philosophical manner. In contrast, Aberjhani’s The River of Winged Dreams contains a large number of celebrated experimental haiku poems. These frequently acknowledge painful human dilemmas but, also, often offer a more hopeful and inspirational approach that emphasizes the beauty and resilience of the human spirit.

Quote from THE RIVER OF WINGED DREAMS on literary links and differences between poets Rainer Maria Rilke and Aberjhani.

Despite their similar interests in themes of mystical contemplation, the two poets belong to different literary traditions. Rilke’s work is steeped in early 20th-century existentialism and Modernism, marked by its introspective and often somber tone. Aberjhani’s poetry, however, is contemporary and reflects influences from the Harlem Renaissance and the broader spectrum of African-American literary traditions as well as Japanese haiku; it is characterized by a more optimistic and empowering voice. Nevertheless, both poets' works resonate with the timeless quest for meaning and the spiritual dimensions of human life, bridging their distinct literary traditions through universal themes.

Additional Historical Influences: Aberjhani's work in poetry has been compared to that of such classic authors as Khalil Gibran, William Blake, and T.S. Eliot. Blake's "The Marriage of Heaven and Hell" shares Aberjhani's visionary style and exploration of spiritual themes. Both poets use vivid, often surreal imagery to explore the intersection of the divine and the human.

T.S. Eliot's "The Waste Land" similarly delves into themes of human suffering and the search for meaning in a fragmented world. Eliot's use of mythological and religious references parallels Aberjhani's incorporation of spiritual symbolism.

Contemporary Voices: Among contemporary poets, the works of Joy Harjo and Mary Oliver offer comparable meditations on human existence and the natural world. Harjo’s poetry often blends personal and historical trauma with spiritual healing, much like Aberjhani’s. Her poem "A Map to the Next World" explores themes of survival and the quest for spiritual wholeness, resonating with Aberjhani's vision of transcendence.

Mary Oliver’s nature poetry, while more serene, shares Aberjhani’s deep reverence for the natural world and its transformative potential. Her poem "Wild Geese" speaks to the human need for connection and the solace found in nature, mirroring the redemptive imagery in "The River of Winged Dreams."

CRITICISMS

While "The River of Winged Dreams" has been widely praised, some critics might argue that its dense symbolism and surreal imagery could be challenging for some readers. The poem’s blend of the abstract and concrete requires careful interpretation, which might not appeal to those seeking more straightforward narratives. However, this complexity is also one of its primary strengths, inviting multiple readings and deep reflection.

Teaching Plan

Objective: To explore the themes, imagery, and philosophical insights of Aberjhani's "The River of Winged Dreams" and to relate these elements to both historical and contemporary contexts.

HIGH SCHOOL LEVEL

Introduction to Aberjhani and Contextual Background

Briefly introduce Aberjhani and his significance as a poet.
Provide historical context related to themes of suffering and redemption.

Reading and Initial Response

Read the poem aloud in class.
Have students write a brief response to their initial impressions and feelings about the poem.

Thematic Exploration

Discuss major themes: human suffering, spiritual redemption, and transformation.
Relate themes to historical events such as the Holocaust and the Civil Rights Movement.

Imagery and Symbolism

Analyze the use of color and surreal imagery.
Discuss the symbolism of the river and its significance.

Comparative Analysis

Compare the poem to works by William Blake and T.S. Eliot.
Discuss similarities and differences in themes and styles.

Creative Project

Have students create their own poems or visual art inspired by "The River of Winged Dreams."

COLLEGE LEVEL

In-depth Author Study

Study Aberjhani’s biography and other works.
Discuss his influence on contemporary poetry and social media.

Detailed Analysis

Conduct a line-by-line analysis of the poem.
Explore philosophical and spiritual insights in depth.

Interdisciplinary Connections

Connect the poem to philosophical texts by Nietzsche and Sartre.
Discuss the poem in the context of religious studies and mysticism.

Research and Presentation

Assign research projects on historical events referenced in the poem.
Have students present their findings and relate them to the poem’s themes.

Comparative Literature

Compare Aberjhani’s poem to contemporary works by Joy Harjo and Mary Oliver.
Discuss the continuing relevance of spiritual and existential themes in modern poetry.

Critical Essays

Assign critical essays on the poem’s themes, imagery, and philosophical insights.
Encourage students to explore how the poem’s abstract nature contributes to its meaning.

IN CONCLUSION

Teaching "The River of Winged Dreams" offers valuable lessons for students, teachers, and publishers. For students, it provides an opportunity to engage with complex themes and rich imagery, enhancing their analytical and creative skills. Teachers can use the poem to introduce interdisciplinary studies, connecting literature with history, philosophy, and religious studies. For publishers, promoting such works enriches the literary landscape, highlighting the enduring power of poetry to address universal human experiences.

"The River of Winged Dreams" confirms the transformative power of poetry, offering a compelling vision of human suffering and the hope for redemption. Its philosophical and spiritual insights, coupled with its literary merits, make it a significant work worthy of study and appreciation in both academic and literary contexts.

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Poetics of Human-AI Relations, Creativity, and Mortality in Marc Thomas’s Talking to the Machines

THE REVOLT AGAINST MECHANIZED EXISTENCE

THE TRAGIC HYPNOSIS OF THE DIGITAL AGE

A DEEPER DIVE

SIGNIFICANCE IN THE CONTEMPORARY CONTEXT

IN CONCLUSION: A LESSON PLAN FOR
TEACHING "CHARMS AGAINST THE ROBOTS"
AND TALKING TO THE MACHINES

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A Deeper Dive into 'The River of Winged Dreams'

Major Themes

QUALITIES & VALUES

COMPARABLE WORKS

CRITICISMS

Teaching Plan

IN CONCLUSION

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Poetics of Human-AI Relations, Creativity, and Mortality in Marc Thomas’s Talking to the Machines

THE REVOLT AGAINST MECHANIZED EXISTENCE

THE TRAGIC HYPNOSIS OF THE DIGITAL AGE

A DEEPER DIVE

SIGNIFICANCE IN THE CONTEMPORARY CONTEXT

IN CONCLUSION: A LESSON PLAN FOR TEACHING "CHARMS AGAINST THE ROBOTS" AND TALKING TO THE MACHINES

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A Deeper Dive into 'The River of Winged Dreams'

Major Themes

QUALITIES & VALUES

COMPARABLE WORKS

CRITICISMS

Teaching Plan

IN CONCLUSION

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IN CONCLUSION: A LESSON PLAN FOR
TEACHING "CHARMS AGAINST THE ROBOTS"
AND TALKING TO THE MACHINES

By ChatGPT Features Contributor 2125
Special to AI Literary Chat Salon 2025
Editing and Art Graphic by Aberjhani

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